What’s Barack Obama got in common with Bill Clinton, Chavez and Mussolini?

by Archie Dunlop on March 17, 2008

You don’t know? Well, I’ll give you a clue – there are twelve choices. More of that in a bit.

Cutting to the chase, and Barack Obama is not going to be elected US president in 2008. And as a I look around the internet, it seems that many astrologers, using a range of techniques, have a similar view. I find this surprising, as astrologers would surely be ideal Obama supporters – fairly liberal, and also well-educated. Perhaps I’ve underestimated my own profession. Perhaps astrologers can be objective, and they can put aside their political opinions and look at the facts? Or maybe I just don’t understand what American astrologers are like. Are they all Republicans? Or all die-hard Hillary supporters?

Before commenting on Obama’s horoscope, I should point out that we don’t know for sure what his birth time is. The birth time is important, but without it we can still make some useful observations. For example, he’s a Leo. I think this is quite clear from the style of leadership he’s been presenting. It’s inspirational, and it seems to focus on him more than his policies. Under these circumstances, it might be useful to think of other Leos who have done well in politics.

There’s Bill Clinton, known for his charisma and his engaging personality – one of America’s most accomplished leaders. Across the Straits of Florida, in Cuba, we’ve got Fidel Castro, a prolific orator and someone who appears very sure that he’s in the right. On the other side of the Caribbean there’s Venezuela, and its Leo president Hugo Chavez. Hugo Chavez is a populist leader, who wants to alleviate poverty through a redistribution of wealth. Another Venezuelan-born icon with a Leo star sign was Simon Bolivar, born on July 24 1783, the champion of Latin American independence. Crossing the Atlantic, to Europe, and the absolute super-Leo was Napoleon Bonaparte, under whose leadership France got to dominate the European continent. We also shouldn’t forget the fascist dictator Benito Mussolini, born on July 29 1883, as well as the Serbian leader Slobodan Milosevic.

If there are any common themes about these Leo leaders, it’s their ability to inspire enormous confidence amongst their followers, a confidence that in certain cases becomes fanatical. Whatever the odds, the Leo can come up trumps, pulling victory from the jaws of defeat. However Leos greatest strength can be its greatest weakness. When Leos really believe something they can almost move mountains, their willpower being their secret weapon. Yet when the tide changes they can become stranded, not having the flexibility to adjust their beliefs. Alternatively, they can overestimate their capabilities, and get themselves into real trouble. A case of pride coming before a fall.

One potential problem that astrologers have pointed to in Obama’s horoscope is a stressful aspect between the Sun and Neptune. Obama might be confident, but he’s capable of making big mistakes – perhaps throwing everything into a particular goal, and this goal turns out to be a mirage. Or maybe he’ll fall in love with his own rhetoric?

Still, I wouldn’t regard the Sun-Neptune aspect as being an insurmountable obstacle. No chart is perfect, and in many respects I regard him as being presidential material. If one does some calculations, based on his August 4 1961 birth date, one realises that he was possibly conceived in mid-November 1960 – it was on November 8 1960 that John F. Kennedy was elected President. Obama’s conception happened at a time of great political hope – as JFK reached the peak of his political career, the seeds of a potential Kennedy were being laid down. So it’s no wonder that Obama is often compared with JFK, though maybe this comparison isn’t helpful, given Kennedy’s role in the escalation of the Vietnam War.

In American politics timing is everything, and I’m concerned that Barack Obama is running too early. Although I don’t know his time of birth, I do know that in Indian astrology he’s going through the sixteen year mahadasa of Jupiter. His Jupiter is very weak, whatever time he was born, and I’m surprised he’s got so far with it. It’s the weakest planet in his horoscope, and his Jupiter mahadasa will end at the earliest on September 29 2010, at the latest on March 25 2017 – depending, of course, on his birth time. The mahadasa following Jupiter is Saturn, and Saturn is strongly placed in his chart. This is the time when he can reach the highest office.

If you’re an Indian astrology buff, and you’re still wondering how Obama could manage to be so successful in a Jupiter mahadasa – for example getting into the senate, and running an effective campaign for the Democrat nomination, the answer might lie in the fact that his Jupiter is ‘neecha-bhanga raja yoga’. In Indian astrology a raja yoga is a ‘kingly union’, and this type of raja yoga is about the negation of ill effects. In his Indian chart his Jupiter is conjunct, and ruled by, Saturn, and this is considered fortunate. But still, it doesn’t take away from its fundamental weakness, and while his Jupiter mahadasa is in operation Obama should put himself in a position where he is leaning on powerful people, rather than being the big cheese himself.

Matters are made worse by the day chosen by Obama to announce his candidature. Numerous astrologers have picked up on its inauspicious nature. Put simply, when Obama announced his candidature, the Moon was in Scorpio, void of course. Scorpio is a sign that the Moon is not happy in, and ‘void of course’ means that the Moon has already made its last aspect before leaving the sign. In other words, the Moon is going nowhere.

So overall, I believe that Obama CANNOT WIN the Presidential Election in 2008, and he should be focusing on 2016 or later for a run on the White House. On the plus side, given the great strength of his Saturn, I don’t think defeat by McCain in November would necessarily destroy his chance of running again, assuming he beats Hillary for the nomination. And in this sense he could do a Richard Nixon, who lost against Kennedy on November 8 1960, but bounced back eight years later.

I would nonetheless advise Obama to find a way of ducking out of the big challenge in November, even if it’s a mathematical certainty that he’ll get enough delegates to win the nomination. Do a deal with Hillary, be her running mate. That way you can be Vice-President, and prepare the ground for the presidency in eight or twelve years time. I know, playing second fiddle is tough for a Leo, particularly when victory is so close. That would be a big, big sacrifice for you, but Obama, you’ve got to realise that your chances of being US president in 2009 are next to nothing. And if and when you lose in November your party might never forgive you. It’s better for you to concede the battle than lose the war!

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